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T O P I C R E V I E WDagnyI just started seeing a guy I met from class. Here's his chart: http://qoou.net/images/ANVo.gif I notice he's got a lot of squares and not much else...anything indicated in there?This is his OWN natal chart. I'm curious about just HIM.DagnyIs this considered a scary chart?mintgirl123Post the chart here, I can't see it cos you have to log in to go to the linked page.DagnyHere's the chart: http://qoou.net/images/ANVo.gif lalalindaHello Dagny! Welcome to LL RandallWelcome!mintgirl123He's born around the same time as me, and I have some t squares too and lots of squares and oppositions lol (cos I have three libra planets and my outer planets are in cappy so they square) Just means there's internal tension and sometimes life's a struggle, BUT it makes me alot more determined and persevering, so I think he'll be like that too.He looks pretty energetic and assertive.The only really tough aspect is moon square mercury, I don't have that but I would imagine it to be somewhat hard to handle at times. I can see he has mars square uranus (but it's a loose orb so it won't be as bad)-- might make him somewhat of a thrill seeker and he might find it hard to really be tied down, cos he'll want freedom. There might be an internal struggle, where his Sag moon is wanting space and a more laid back relationship, and his venus in scorp wants sth alittle more intense and 'clingy'BUT, it's not too hard to handle, you just need to give him space and don't cling onto him.Dagnyuh...contradictions. I'm confused! lolDagnyBut is it normal to see so much red in a chart? I usually see more blue in a chart, but this guy is apparently all hard aspects.Does that mean he's going to be one of those emo stalker guys?lindisfarneYou just met this guy.. how did you even get his birth information? Dagny quote:Originally posted by lindisfarne:You just met this guy.. how did you even get his birth information? What's it to you? O_OlolWe just got deep into a conversation, and he admitted his interest in astrology. So I managed to sneak in subtle ways to collect the necessary information...(I'm a Scorpio, lol)Lonake quote:Originally posted by Dagny:Does that mean he's going to be one of those emo stalker guys?I have more red than blue, and altho I love my obsessions, I have never stalked and have never been EMO But I'm not him. So. I will say that he has many issues to work on regarding his image of himself as a man, and how he relates to the world as a confident, secure person. Many. This is not easy, and it often involves making a lot of mistakes. Sometimes hurting others, sometimes abusing the self and acting out in detrimental ways. He may claim to want to go after/accomplish one thing/have much bravado, and then turn around often and do another that ends up sending him back to square one. Will be v.frustrating for himself, and for others he chooses to be involved with.Pluto is transiting over his Saturn, squaring his Sun/Mars around this time, so this is a v.intense period for him. If you had your Asc/personal planets/jupiter trining his Sun/Mars from 8-14 Aquarius or Gemini, that would surely help ease some pressure for him, if you choose to be involved.Dagny quote:I have more red than blue, and altho I love my obsessions, I have never stalked and have never been EMO But I'm not him. So. I will say that he has many issues to work on regarding his image of himself as a man, and how he relates to the world as a confident, secure person. Many. This is not easy, and it often involves making a lot of mistakes. Sometimes hurting others, sometimes abusing the self and acting out in detrimental ways. He may claim to want to go after/accomplish one thing/have much bravado, and then turn around often and do another that ends up sending him back to square one. Will be v.frustrating for himself, and for others he chooses to be involved with.Pluto is transiting over his Saturn, squaring his Sun/Mars around this time, so this is a v.intense period for him. If you had your Asc/personal planets/jupiter trining his Sun/Mars from 8-14 Aquarius or Gemini, that would surely help ease some pressure for him, if you choose to be involved.[/B]He mentioned something about feeling like nothing ever works out for him. Does his chart indicate just being born unlucky, having a naturally unlucky life?Lonake^ There's a challenge in losing focus, feeling easily overwhelmed by obstacles. Things that others would say "o well this is normal, setbacks like these are a part of the process in realizing the goal," people like him would find it difficult to not take them personally, to not use them as a reason to give up. So, it has to do with a feeling of futility on one hand, and a sense of frustration, and also on the other, looking for a reason to tune out because it didn't easily fall in his lap. Hope this makes sense.RedScorp quote:Originally posted by Dagny: What's it to you? O_OLMAOpopcornI be more scared if I saw more blue. I like men who are strong and manage hard test in the life. When people got most blue they often took the whole hand if you give a finger.ElizabethOIntuition makes me feel like he's very intelligent...And I can understand why he feels like nothing goes his way... when his way goes into three different directions!Hmm, he's a year younger than me... He still has so much life left to live! I feel bad for him Feeling like life just... sucks. I was there, too. Especially in this economy... it's hard to imagine life getting much better when you're young and there's just SO MUCH still to do but SO MUCH to overcome... lol, I'm talking like I'm not just a year older than him.I had a feeling that he'd be a late bloomer... Alas, something MertSerimer posted popped into my head: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211000.html quote:Saturn in 11th house is "slow and steady wins the race" placement. Native eventually will get what they want. Hard working and patience is required a lot. It also gives intelligence and memory. But in addition, it can cause interruption or delay in education lifes.Does this sound like him?Dagny quote:Originally posted by Lonake:^ There's a challenge in losing focus, feeling easily overwhelmed by obstacles. Things that others would say "o well this is normal, setbacks like these are a part of the process in realizing the goal," people like him would find it difficult to not take them personally, to not use them as a reason to give up. So, it has to do with a feeling of futility on one hand, and a sense of frustration, and also on the other, looking for a reason to tune out because it didn't easily fall in his lap. Hope this makes sense.Is it because he's got a ton of water in his chart? Or would his chart indicates that objectively, bad things simply happen to him more than normal?(I'm using him as a case study, since he's got the most extremely red chart I've ever seen, and I'm kind of new at this)Dagny quote:Originally posted by popcorn:I be more scared if I saw more blue. I like men who are strong and manage hard test in the life. When people got most blue they often took the whole hand if you give a finger.But I hear that if there is a lot of red, that's a...red flag. (lol)Like they could be dangerous or suicidal or something. It's not just that there's so many squares and red, it's that there's almost NO blue to relieve anything or give him any relief in life.I also heard that this indicates really, really bad karma. Is this true?Lonake quote:Originally posted by Dagny: Is it because he's got a ton of water in his chart?I was looking at his Sun/Mars/Neptune/Saturn/Jupiter.popcornDagny. I think you not checked out enough many chart ;-). I see more red flag on few squares and opp in a chart. I often se lack of strenght to manage and manifest hard test with few hard aspects. I like triggers like t-square. This brings experience and make people strong.Dagny quote:Originally posted by popcorn:Dagny. I think you not checked out enough many chart ;-). I see more red flag on few squares and opp in a chart. I often se lack of strenght to manage and manifest hard test with few hard aspects. I like triggers like t-square. This brings experience and make people strong.Really? Do you have any examples, because I've seen a bunch of charts, and none were as bad as his.
I notice he's got a lot of squares and not much else...anything indicated in there?
This is his OWN natal chart. I'm curious about just HIM.
Just means there's internal tension and sometimes life's a struggle, BUT it makes me alot more determined and persevering, so I think he'll be like that too.
He looks pretty energetic and assertive.The only really tough aspect is moon square mercury, I don't have that but I would imagine it to be somewhat hard to handle at times. I can see he has mars square uranus (but it's a loose orb so it won't be as bad)-- might make him somewhat of a thrill seeker and he might find it hard to really be tied down, cos he'll want freedom. There might be an internal struggle, where his Sag moon is wanting space and a more laid back relationship, and his venus in scorp wants sth alittle more intense and 'clingy'BUT, it's not too hard to handle, you just need to give him space and don't cling onto him.
Does that mean he's going to be one of those emo stalker guys?
quote:Originally posted by lindisfarne:You just met this guy.. how did you even get his birth information?
What's it to you? O_O
lol
We just got deep into a conversation, and he admitted his interest in astrology. So I managed to sneak in subtle ways to collect the necessary information...
(I'm a Scorpio, lol)
quote:Originally posted by Dagny:Does that mean he's going to be one of those emo stalker guys?
quote:I have more red than blue, and altho I love my obsessions, I have never stalked and have never been EMO But I'm not him. So. I will say that he has many issues to work on regarding his image of himself as a man, and how he relates to the world as a confident, secure person. Many. This is not easy, and it often involves making a lot of mistakes. Sometimes hurting others, sometimes abusing the self and acting out in detrimental ways. He may claim to want to go after/accomplish one thing/have much bravado, and then turn around often and do another that ends up sending him back to square one. Will be v.frustrating for himself, and for others he chooses to be involved with.Pluto is transiting over his Saturn, squaring his Sun/Mars around this time, so this is a v.intense period for him. If you had your Asc/personal planets/jupiter trining his Sun/Mars from 8-14 Aquarius or Gemini, that would surely help ease some pressure for him, if you choose to be involved.[/B]
He mentioned something about feeling like nothing ever works out for him. Does his chart indicate just being born unlucky, having a naturally unlucky life?
quote:Originally posted by Dagny: What's it to you? O_O
LMAO
And I can understand why he feels like nothing goes his way... when his way goes into three different directions!
Hmm, he's a year younger than me... He still has so much life left to live! I feel bad for him Feeling like life just... sucks. I was there, too. Especially in this economy... it's hard to imagine life getting much better when you're young and there's just SO MUCH still to do but SO MUCH to overcome... lol, I'm talking like I'm not just a year older than him.
I had a feeling that he'd be a late bloomer... Alas, something MertSerimer posted popped into my head: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/211000.html
quote:Saturn in 11th house is "slow and steady wins the race" placement. Native eventually will get what they want. Hard working and patience is required a lot. It also gives intelligence and memory. But in addition, it can cause interruption or delay in education lifes.
Does this sound like him?
quote:Originally posted by Lonake:^ There's a challenge in losing focus, feeling easily overwhelmed by obstacles. Things that others would say "o well this is normal, setbacks like these are a part of the process in realizing the goal," people like him would find it difficult to not take them personally, to not use them as a reason to give up. So, it has to do with a feeling of futility on one hand, and a sense of frustration, and also on the other, looking for a reason to tune out because it didn't easily fall in his lap. Hope this makes sense.
Is it because he's got a ton of water in his chart? Or would his chart indicates that objectively, bad things simply happen to him more than normal?
(I'm using him as a case study, since he's got the most extremely red chart I've ever seen, and I'm kind of new at this)
quote:Originally posted by popcorn:I be more scared if I saw more blue. I like men who are strong and manage hard test in the life. When people got most blue they often took the whole hand if you give a finger.
But I hear that if there is a lot of red, that's a...red flag. (lol)
Like they could be dangerous or suicidal or something. It's not just that there's so many squares and red, it's that there's almost NO blue to relieve anything or give him any relief in life.
I also heard that this indicates really, really bad karma. Is this true?
quote:Originally posted by Dagny: Is it because he's got a ton of water in his chart?
quote:Originally posted by popcorn:Dagny. I think you not checked out enough many chart ;-). I see more red flag on few squares and opp in a chart. I often se lack of strenght to manage and manifest hard test with few hard aspects. I like triggers like t-square. This brings experience and make people strong.
Really? Do you have any examples, because I've seen a bunch of charts, and none were as bad as his.
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